Jul 11, 2011

DEPUTY COLLECTOR short list- high court want a clarification

Kochi.Kerala high court today asked a clarification from Kerala PSC over the deputy collector preliminary list.A petition was filed in the court that, in addition to the 1000 persons got more than 62 mark PSC included about 2500 applicants from reservation categary to unify the preliminary list.
Court want the explanation before 14th of this month.earlier PSC has decided to conduct the main exam on 16th of this month.

Bijoy T Nair and other 11 persons they had written the preliminary exam but not included in the short list for final exam were filed the case.Justice C.T.Ravikumar gave order for explanation.

256 comments:

  1. selection should be totally impartial in all its stages. 3500 or even 2500 from actual rank list of the preliminary without any reservation inclusion will defenitely include all reservation catagories also, if any catogary is absent that can be filled by NCA notified selection procedure. So there is no need of including 2500 reservation catogaries in the preliminary filtration test itself.
    suneesh

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  2. problem is not only this PSC made short list with four flase answer keys.So the so called people on the merit list are not actually having merit to write the mains exam

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  3. probles is not only this PSC actullay made the short list from using Four wrong answer key .one from GS and three from english.PSC turned down all the requests.So that means the so called merit students are not actually meritorious they made in to the lsit with luck for 4 marks

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  4. and psc excluded some questions without any reason . that also affected shortlist...
    what aspect of psc shortlist has been challenged by bijoy ?
    and what is the position now ?

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  5. What is the need of 2500 candidates from reservation category while 1000 in main who got marks above 62.When you check the marks randomly it is heartbreaking that so many candidates got 45-55 included in the list.nobody understands why

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  6. i think bijoy challenged only the irrationale prepration of the short list by selecting only 1000 from Gen merit and 2500 from reservation catrgory.I persume he didnt challenged the short list made with four flase answer keys given in the Final answer key in the High court

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  7. deputy collector post is supposed to be the highest post notified by kpsc, hence selection process should be impartial in all its stages. preliminary which is only a filtration test and hence putting reservation in it cnnot be acceped and it is totally against the rule.merit only should be the criteria in preliminary exam.psc has deleted 4 questions and put doubtfull answer for about 3 questions that also has to be checked. i may request to the honarable high court to do the needfull to make the selection an impartial one by its verdict.

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  8. exclusion of qstns affects all the people equllay.But the giving marks to false questions is much more serious affects badly to the students coming in General merit .they dont have any reservation also and their valuable marks were also denied

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  9. not only 4 answers. almost 11 question and answers are either wrong or with multiple answers.what was the criteria ofthe psc to delete 4 questions from the final answer key?
    it is not the policy of the psc to choose "the best among" . psc may plese notify the post once again and ensure justice

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  10. what is the status of the case filed in high court by bijoy t nair and others?
    bijoy can you post your contact details here ?

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  11. sunil pls inform ur number

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  12. Mathrubhumi published a news about a forum for the candidates who have complaints about deputy collector exam.People from trivandrum dist or near by dist can contact this no : 9496083734 and participate in this forum.

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  13. Friends , it is said that psc lowered the cut off marks for reservation category to incude adequate candidated from that category. But, in the case of Physically handicapped persons who have 3 percent reservation in Deputy Collector post, only 10 candidated are included in short list. Out of the total 3500 candidates , 105 candidates could have ph persons. Why Psc is not protecting the interest of all reservation categories?. Since total reservation is 50Percent only, 1500 more merit candidates(total 2500) are to be included in short list. Because, not only reservation but also opportunities must have reasonable. Since the case is in hon high court, Let us all welcome the court verdict.

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  14. Friends,Any updates?

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  15. Can I join in the forum?Any updates in the writ filed?

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  16. Dy. Collector interview to start on October 2011.

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  17. Where can we find the mention about 2500 reserve category candidates in the prelim list? I couldn't find it from PSC website. Although, newspapers reported that, from where got such an information?
    Any idea about possible release of short list for interview?

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  18. WE cannot find the categorized shortlist in the psc website. But if a group of friends can work together, they can collect the mark list of every roll number/candidate in the short list. Those who scored 62 and above are from general category and the rest are reserved category. Try it my dear friend

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  19. Firends is there any update in court case??

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  20. @Jayan, it will be difficult to be proved in a court then.

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  21. @Jayan, Your comment assumes a lot. In that case, how the court consider the merit of the argument?
    With out having support from all qualified candidates, how can the argument could be proved?

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  22. so chances are grim

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  23. So friends it'll be difficult to acquire stay from the court, right?

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  24. Court Case very much on line

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  25. What'll be the verdict ? Any idea ??

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  26. This week manorama Thozhil Vaartha..has given detailed article about the gross injustice shown by PSC by putting shortlist with different cut off.

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  27. Is it possible for PSC to re-conduct the Dy exam ? Are there any provision for that ?

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  28. please give status of HC case regarding Deputy collector short list. when will be final verdict

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  29. easy way out is to cut down the shortlist. May be to 1000, with 62 as cut off. And remove the rest from the probable candidates.
    NCA recruitment will suffice, if needed later.

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  30. high court has given verdict.?But NCA recrutmnt will doesnot impart the Compettiveness to the exam ..infact the prelims key it self was flawed

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  31. agree in toto..but what abt the verdict

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  32. I heard that the result will publish soon

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  33. High court case Chapter closed???

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  34. When the result will be published?

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  35. result expected on last week of nov or earlier court case wont affect the result .what about cut off i expect 130 marks atleast is there any chance to be called for inter view

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  36. Court case wont affect the result? PSC has full power to do what they want to do ? How is it possible ?

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  37. I think 130 is enough. A good attept is above 180 marks questions. and if one get 60% per question on average, the score could be around 108 plus.
    That could be the cut off. A guess.

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  38. But what'll be the court case ? All in vain ?

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  39. Reservation is a constitutional setup.How can Bijoy T Nair challenge the Reservation benefits? He is trying to stirred up a communal hornets net.

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  40. But what about the verdict friends ? Any hope for a second chance ?

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  41. court case over i heard for deputy clollector exam so .. psc is still continuing the integrated list type cut off for si test also ( exam was on 13th nov) ... result on last week of nov interview in 2011 itself final list on feb mar 12.. cut off marks for main exam only 90 nearly ..

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  42. When will be the next Dy.Cltr exam ?

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  43. Court case over ? Are u sure about it ?

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  44. Really the case in high court is over?

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  45. Case is not over yet....

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  46. court case status ? reply please ?

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  47. court case was regarding cut off marks , and psc has replied that there is no such cut off strictly and integrated list is a general thing for many exams like bdo sub inspector etc for getting sufficient representation from reservation categories and there is only such a solution at present . not sure but heard as above . psc chairman has said that wide acceptance of integrated list for more exams is under revision now. result soon for deputy collector

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  48. Please reveal the verdict or status of court case. Any hope for a second chance !!

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  49. NO CHANCE FOR A SECOND CHANCE PSC IS NOT GOING TO ' REDO' ALL THESE PROCESSES . PSC HAS CONSTITUTIONAL AND STATUTARY INDEPENDENCE FOR OPERATIONS . THERE IS NO HISTORY OF SUCH REDO IN ANY EARLIER CASE . AMND NOW THE RESULT IS NEAR TO COME

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  50. Please guide for court case or any other relevant approach, regarding wrong answer key Teachers Eligibility Test of state government while new appointments...

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  51. and please tell, can we fight for our right regarding wrong answers published by state government for new appointments...

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  52. YOU CAN APROACH THE HON. HIGH COURT WITH SUFFICIENT SUPPORTING RELEVANT EVIDENCES. BUT FOR ANY AMIGUITIES THE PSC WILL BE FAVOURED

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  53. How can we fight for our right dear friend ? PSC wont accept our conditions and their faults.

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  54. If PSC has constitutional independence then why they conducted a serious exam on their own way ? I know so many aspirants who got only 50 and above attended the final exam. What is this ? Why PSC dont understand rests' right?

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  55. Will PSC conduct Dy.Cltr exam next year? So that we get a chance.

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  56. we cannot expect a deputy collector exam in near future . there are so many other oppurtunities . even the forthcoming scrtr. asst. exam is now part of the civil service and one can easily place in the ladder to higher post . why only wait for dy collctr exam ? . in the short list for dy cllctr short list people with even 35 marks is included . but that doesnot affect a general candidate normally. for general candidates 62 is a genuine cut off . try to prove yourself. work harder , the winning is yours and always there is aplace vaccant in the top.

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  57. The main point here is onlu 1000 candidates above 62 and 2500 candidates who got less than 62..why is this partiality? The genuine selection criteria will be 2500 above a cut off mark from general list and rest from the reserved category..If PSC is a constitutional body then it should do this...I dont know the fate of the legal action by some of our frnds...

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  58. no response for court case ?

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  59. Dont expect a positive answer from the court.

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  60. the probability of candidates who scored above 62 getting past the main exam is much higher as compared to say one with 40 marks or so. I think PSC might have taken that in to consideration. Hence to avoid no representation from weaker segments, a ratio of 1:2.5 might have been introduced.
    every candidate who scored more than 62 marks has higher chance of clearing mains than 3 candidates coming from the reserved segment.
    If 500 candidates from non reserve group clear Final exam and only 100 from reservation category clears the final exam, PSC's logic would be vindicated.

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  61. PSC can not deduce a logic or ratio like that..its a constitutional body and it should abide constitutional rules...How could they guess higher chance for general candidate who scored 62 than a candidate from reserved category..it seems court has to judge some serious concerns

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  62. what is being said in the previous comment is absolutely right. if a candidate is worth to clear the deputy exam and become one among th selected few (10 or 20 max.) , then naturally he should get atleast a 60% in such a simpler (prelims) exam . so dont' get irritated in somebody getting his constitutional right ( reservation). but the case of wrong answers and negligence of psc in exam conduction and evaluation is to be seriously dealt with.

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  63. Court will handle the case carefully,because it contains the (sensitive) reservation of minorities and backwards.Be hopeful that a candidate who score above average or excellent he/she is qualified for the challenging top level executive post of a Deputy Collector.PSC is doing these kind of jobs tens of years and must be experienced and not experimented with candidates social status(community,wealth,color etc).It is difficult to find fallacy in psc.good luck for the candidates who score higher than...

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  64. Any one know when the result for deputy collector main will be published??

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  65. NO IDEA ABOUT RESULTS NOW . LAST DAY PSC CALL CENTRE ANSWERS VERY DIFFERENTLY " NO IDEA ABOUT EVEN THE START OF EVALUATION OF ANSWER SHEETS". WHAT IS HAPPENING???? EARLIER THE SAME CALL CENTRE SAID THAT THE RESULT IS GETTING READY. PSC DECLARED EARLIER THAT THE PLAN IS TO FINALISE THE RANK LIST ( AFTER INTERVIEW ) IN DEC 2012. SO THE SAME THING IS REPEATING WE HAVE TO WAIT ATLEAST 2013 TO GET THE RESULTS... NEED WE GET INTO ANOTHER STATE RUN MACHINERY ( RTEVENUE DEP...) AFTER SUCH A TEDIOUS HARDSHIP .. PSC SHOULD SEE ONE THING, THERE ARE INSTITUTIONS IN OUR COUNTRY ITSELF WHICH HAS THE CAPACITY TO COMPLETE EXAM FORMALITIES IN CORRECT TIME ,, GATE , UPSC , LBS , PSU, IT COMPANIES ETC ETC ARE A FEW EXMPLS.. LEARN FROM OTHERS IF YOU ARE NOT AWARE OF YOUR DUTIES , OTHERWISE QUIT...

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  66. result is almost ready ... probably on monday it will be set to be out

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  67. i also heard that result is ready to come

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  68. whether result published?

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  69. result is imminent

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  70. from where you came to know about result getting declared soooooon?

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  71. from psc itself ... result is almost complete in works.. but final work and aproval waiting..

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  72. i dont there is provision for putting reservation in prelimiunary itself. psc can have a bigger list for preliminary nearly about 2500 applicants which will surely include almost all reservation catogaries. if any catogory is absent that can be filled by nca selection process. psc has to consider this in serious i think. ohterwise it is pure partiality in selection procdure. iam not against reservation rules.

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  73. What about the court case and verdict ?

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  74. Court case over ????

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  75. court case was to include those who have filed the suit and psc has replied that for including the complainants the list has to be well expanded (at least to 25000 or more )and the very purpose of preliminary screening may be defeated . also explained that there is no such discrete 'cut off' and we should under stand that psc has the right to prepare the list with sufficient freedom of the statutary rights to prepare a list which includes all reservation categories and thus the case was verdicted in psc's favour (heard so).also the integrated list preparation is not a rare incident. in subinspector test it is again currently followed.. cancellation of all such exams is not practical.. even the bdo list has to be cancelled then

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  76. i think none of us dont have any idea about court verdict

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  77. Nobody knows the status of the court case....

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  78. Those who wrote the main examination with or without reservation is lucky. Best wishes for their Interview

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  79. COURT CASE IS OVER .. COURT HAS ASKED ONLY ONE MONTH FREEZING OF EXAM FORMALITIES AND HAS BEEN SETTLED THE CASE DURING TAHT PERIOD ITSELF WITH THE EARLIER SAID SETTLEMEMNT

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  80. hope this week the result will be published??how many people they'll shortlist for interview?watz the cutoff??Any clues?

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  81. NO HOPE FOR A RESULT IN DECEMBER , OF SURE..

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  82. COURT CASE NOT OVER

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  83. Present details of court case, any idea about the decision of court ?Government's opinion etc ...,replies much appreciated!!!!!!

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  84. Please dont give fake replies

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  85. wat abt results?
    smeone told itz imminent?

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  86. When will the waiting game be over at last?

    Is there a known date for the declaration of the mains results?

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  87. RESULT WILL COME ONLY IN FEBRUARY INTERVIEW APRIL RESULT ( F) JULY

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  88. results most probably before Xmas....

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  89. how was the final exam for all. how many questions attempted, which all questions missed, what marks expected??

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  90. Well got to know that the results will be out by the 20th of this month, Interview January second week.

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  91. I HAVE TRIED ALMOST 52/56 QNS IN FIRST PAPER . I MISSED 2 IN LAST SECTION( SCIENCE) GENETICALLY MODIFIED AND AGENCY.... IP AND 2 IN FIRST SECTION.. RAVIVARMA AND VAKKOM .. IN SECOND PAPER 1 EXPECT 30-35 MARKS LOST 8 MARKS IN STATISTICS AND TOTALLY I EXPECT 120-140 BAND POSITIVELY.

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  92. THEN YOU WILL BE THE FIRST RANK HOLDER ...!!! CONGRATS TO THE 52/56....

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  93. All comments regarding the date of result is seemingly fraudulent,you have to wait indefinitely for atleast six months

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  94. this facility for communicating candidates who wrote main exam is now controlling some dishonest persons , and they are circulating false information

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  95. first paper , i made some errors in few one word answer questions. then I missed 2 essays, 2 short answers.
    second paper missed stats questions.

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  96. My expectation is 110 marks +.

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  97. 110+ IS A GOOD ATTEMPT . RESULT IS ALMOST IN THE FINAL FORM. CENTRALISED VALUATION IS GOING ON FOR LAST 30-40 DAYS ATLEAST 50 PAPERS WILL BE VALUATED IN A DAY . SO RESULT WILL BE OK WITH IN DAYS BUT AGAIN CAN TAKE SOME MORE DAYS TO BE FINALISED . THIS IS 100% CORRECT INFORMATION .. (NOT FROM 04712554000). THESE INFORMATIONS ARE FROM GENUINE SOURCES. YOU CAN BELIEVE IT OR NOT... AN AVERAGE SCORE OF 100 CAN PLACE YOU IN THE LIST OF SURE. EXAMINATION'S SUCCESS SURELY DEPENDS ON THE CONTENT OF EACH ANSWER AND NO: OF ATTEMPTS IN EQUAL PROPORTION FOR THIS TYPE OF QNS. PREDICTION OF CUT OFF VERY DIFFICULT. EXAMINATION WAS ONLY CHECKING YOUR KNOWLEDGE OF TOPICS IN SYLLABUS. SECOND PAPER IS QUITE CRUCIAL . STATS QNS ANSWERS WILL LEAD THE SHOW IF TOU HAVE ATTEMPTED ABOVE 50 QNS IN THE FIRST PAPER

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  98. thanks Anonymous who posted at December 13, 2011 4:56 PM
    at least, i think some genuine info has been posted. I don't understand why some cracks bent upon shooting from their hips all here-say with out any known contact with the sources. Frankly i have no contacts but i hope to join the list with 120 plus minus 10% marks with out attending any stat questions. I don't think not more than 10% could have attended those stat questions as those questions were not exactly from the syllabus mentioned. wish good luck for all hard workers and not for crooks.

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  99. wat i feel is 90 in first paper and 30 in second paper ,whoever scored will fetch an interview call? even i'm a candidate from enggineering background,statistics was a bit tough as it was an unexpected pattern that too nearly 20 marks from that section...apart from that a normal guy who read newspaper and gone through the syllabus will definitely crack the exam....

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  100. HELLO ALL WHAT THE ANONYMOUS SAID ABOUT RESULT IS A CORRECT INFORMATION. RESULT WILL BE READY WITH IN A WEEK ,BUT IT IS WITH PSC TO PUBLISH IT SOON ... BUT IT HAS A DIFFERENT STAND IN THE CASE OF DEPUTY... HEARD THAT THERE ARE SO MANY VACANCIES ( RELIABLE SOURCE) .. 90+ CAN SURELY ENTR IN THE LIST STAT QNS ,IT WAS REALLY MISFIT .. AND NOBODY WILL BE ABLE TO GET IT DONE( NOT BECAUSE OF TOUGHNESS)

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  101. @30 in second paper is bit high. As a cut off, it could be lower. Reason is stats getting missed by many, 2-3 application reasoning question were also present. Average score could be below 50% for these questions.
    I expect 25 as cut off in 2nd paper.
    1st paper could be, a decent attempt for 130 marks, 70% scored on average. Gives, 90 +. Probable.

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  102. WHY ABSURD?!! YOU WANT CLARIFACTION ?.. STATISTICS QUESTIONS ARE EASY ONE .. BUT MY SELF EVEN AN ENGINEERING POST GRADUATE AND HAVING MATHS BASE ( TAKING CLASSES FOR ENTRANCE) STRUGGLED TO GET THE EQUATIONS BACK TO MEMORY . BUT WAS ABLRE TO SCORE NEARLY 10/20 . YOU HAVE TO HAVE A GLANCE AT IT IN NEAR EXAM PERIODS . AND REGARDING VACANCIES MY COUSIN WORKS IN SAME DEPARTMENT AND LAST DEPUTY QUALIFIED. AND REGARDING CUT OFF 90+ WILL BE ENOUGH AND THAT WE WILL SEE. REMEMBER THAT ONLY TENS OF PEOPLE GOT ABOVE 70% IN PRELIMS ( A SIMPLE PAPER). AND THIS BEING DESCRIPTIVE PAPER FOR A SELECTED 200 FROM NEAR 2000 90+ IS ENOUGH ... FOR LAST YEAR CIVIL SERVICE 40% ABOVE WAS CUT OFF...IT IS A FRIENDLY DISCUSSION NOTHING ELSE

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  103. I am sorry if you feel hurt,I am unaware of previous Exams and cutoffs.I appreciate your generosity to share your knowledge to all aspirants of DC,Thank You for your valuable time and expect more information regarding the result.

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  104. how many vacancies can be expected?

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  105. wat kind of questions we can expect in the interview?somebody's cousin qualified in early deputy collector exam? it'll be a great pleasure if u share ur cousins interview experience?Anyone can share there views.I'm a guy workin in hyderabad ,feeling really happy to have such a healthy discussions regardin deputy collector mains?

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  106. REGARDING NO: OF VACANCIES , now thereis acute shortage of officials in kerala cadre. many seniors are handling multiple profiles and it is time up for the last batch of deputy to get IAS conferred (not necessary that every one gets it in 7 years .. but we know how it happens). we have seen that during last few months govt. is trying hard to fill the civil servants' posts by considering clerical cadre (sectrte. assistants) for this stream on promotion. they need atleast 35 now and another 50 with in the lists' validity( believe it or not!!). interview qns will be from current administrative issues.., our work stream, educational back ground etc: ex: mullaperiyar connection with interstate river disputes and the authority ..several earlier cases .one veteran judicial official(from kerala) passed away recently who has a strong connection with interstate river dispute settlement authority formation?? latest fraud cases( psc recruitment can also come) anna hasare's different dimensions .. bureaucratic governance will substitute or compliment democratic self governance??. need analytical and debating answers .. last day i talked with last years' first rank holder also.. i have no hesitation in sharing any knowledge i have . one thing is sure some of us will become deputies and even secretaries of state or more. let us serve the country with this mind set, so that some one else is favored by us

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  107. no need of sorry.. let us have a good interaction here.. every one should give maximum information and make this forum the live discussion platform for dc aspirants.. jai gramasevakan and thanks to the site mediators

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  108. Is there a reliable info on the following?

    1. Mains result date :
    2. Interview Date :
    3. Cut off Mark Main List :
    4. Cut off Mark reservation :
    4. Vacancy list count :
    5. Interview Mark : 10 or 15?
    6. Final Rank List : Month/Year?

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  109. I have attempted the first part pretty decently and am expecting somewhere between 115 and 120 but for the second part (Stat.) I got only 3 small qns right. Now guys, please let me know if weightage would be given for this Stat. paper as seriously as it is for the first one. I am very much worried over this and I am indeed happy to be in the company of such a live company here who keep things updated. I called up PSC today and they were unsure and hesitant and I had to ask them if the results of the Mains would come out this year, to which they replied, "NO" (again hesitantly).

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  110. Can someone tell me when the result of the Main exam would be out

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  111. Friends, Court case over ? Is there any obstruction to publish the mains result !!

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  112. I wrote the exam in Malayalam , there is any problem of reducing marks compared to the same answer in English ? any hope for poor malayalees like me ? please reply,thank you

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  113. @kollam bai
    Like your spirit.
    Thank you for sharing.

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  114. the psc call centre is answered by not authoritative persons to answer any queries about any developments as we ask in the case of deputy.
    once i was able to call the section ds directly by geting the direct no( myself is working in tel. dep as an engineer)and he also was not able to give clear answers but said that the valuation is in progress. the 4712554000 is the tel. enqry section were there are given certain details of results which are finalised and nothing else( which are published in the site)

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  115. interview marks are normally to the max 20% of main exam .s0 max40.
    regarding cut off: difficult as it is relative
    though 60% of max possible marks ie:60% of 165.
    (nearly 15 marks in the first paper some how not reachable to all sections and 20 stat)

















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  116. this is the only forum for discussing DC exam ? is there any other site of this kind?
    please reply.

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  117. please help me...as i'm in hyderabad i'm getting aware abt national news and state news are not coming in my way...whoz the person who died recently connected with interstate water disputes recently?if u dont mind please share the answer and also post these kind of question which lack national attention but statewise attention...

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  118. why these results are not published in time?i'm an enggr workin in a reputed mnc in hyderabad and i purposefully avoided 2 onsite oppurtunities come in my way,even my promotion was put on hold as i've taken 20 days leave prior to deputy collector Mains,lot of sufferings i'm goin through,why these PSC not understanding the value of time?Anyhow i've to crack the exam.Msy God bless everyone to cherish their dreams.

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  119. no problem in writing in malayalam. the content and no: of qns answered is important.. we have seen that one essay was there (in malayalam)for testing the vernacular befit

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  120. Heard that valuation is over but PSC will publish the list after clearing the legality.A case regarding this is pending in kerala High court

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  121. JUSTICE BALAKRISHNA ERADI.. ERADI TRIBUNAL .. PUNJAB HARYANA RAJASTHAN ..

    PSC NEED NOT WAIT FOR COURTORDER TO PUBLISH RESULTS ,I THINK. IT CAN SURELY GET THE RESULT PUBLISHED WITH MENTIONING OF THE CASE AND A DISCLAIMER ,IF NEEDED.
    IN DEPUTY CASE THE COURT HAS FROZEN THE FORMALITIES DURING JULY 16 TO AUG 15 ONLY AND NO FURTHER ORDER CAME REG: THE ISSUE

    ALSO THE FORUMS WHO CAME FORWARD WITH THE ISSUE ARE SILENT NOW AND PASSIVE IN OPERATIONS( NOT PROCEEDING WITH CASE )

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  122. To KOLLAM BAI

    We(I am writing this comment for everyone using this facility ) are very much interested in your goodness.Excellent spirit to free knowledge.Thank You

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  123. A case filed by the group of candidates is with High court and awaiting the result.There is no news in newspapers thats why it seems passive...really appreciating KOLLAM BAI's spirit...keep it

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  124. kollam bhai thx for your positive ressponse

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  125. If you carefully scan through all the posts above, people are invariably concerned about the date of publishing the results. I wish the dates of all the recruitment stages are also announced when a vacancy is announced. I am sure the day is not far ahead!

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  126. GREAT NEWS FOR DEPUTY ASPIRANTS

    "Central govt rejected Kerala govt's decision to include secretariat service in state civil service. Kerala chief secretary has got letter from center in connection with this.Revenue officials are the only state employees in state civil service. Earlier cabinet pointed out the shortage of eligible candidates for state civil service and took decision to add secretariat service in state civil service" 15-12-11

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  127. less than 20% posts are through direct recruitment right?
    So, even if the available number position is 150, we have only 30 seats. Then comes reservation, so open merit could be only for 15

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  128. @anonymous, please give the details of the case, if available.

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  129. normally in any organisation direct recruitment is 50%.it is the same with kerala service also. and also in the present scenario there is acute shortage and there is a plan for a new post 'revenue officer 'in the light of over burden for many senior officials ,so that they can monitor especially the internal affairs of various departments( latest recruitment fraud ...ex;). it is a primary concern.
    regarding reservation : see that it is not 50% direct but following a rotation chart so that o the 5th rank is not often shifted to 10th but 7th . see many of the rank lists , even last deputy list.
    in the last deputy main list also main list included all candidates and reservation only rearranged the list( got it?)
    ragrding vacancy : the last centre's order at this time is a great twist and it is to be noted that the list is coming for at least the next 3-5 years
    and from the last list ( called for only 1 vacancy) almost all from main list got placement( total 17)

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  130. why all are anonymous come with some identity( request)
    select from the pop down and comment as name /url

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  131. I had a chance to talk to one of the 'decision making officer' in PSC and he is not sure about the validity of the list if Court says against it.But he assured that results of the main exam will be published with that disclaimer.

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  132. most probably court may not interfere so much into the exam formalities and no chance for cancelling the main exam.. the points raised by th bijoy team could n't stand the psc's reply, especially 40 years and including them in the list .
    but there is a feeble chance for separating the people eith marks below 62 and making them in the supplimantary list despite of there performance in main ( this also very less chance)

    integrated list is a very complex issue as psc has to cancel the si list , invalidate all appointed bdos extra. it is not easy .

    our poor psc is not in a position to redo the main ...

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  133. By direct recruitment, the objective is to bring in well educated, sharp young blood to state service.
    Delaying the selection process like in last deputy collector exam, where in it took almost a decade for the whole process to compelete, is silly and beat the very purpose doing this selection exercise.
    The revenue department is not the ideal place for an young person to learn professionalism. When taken from the view point of serving the society, it is better to do our own ventures rather than being part of the inefficient, snale pace bureaucracy of the state.
    For professionals working outside the state, this post may open a good method to come back to home land. That is it.
    Young people like us need to really think whether selection as deputy collector will make our day. The chances of a frustating career along with outdated methods and lackadaisical colleagues, subordinates, superiors is what I think is waiting for us as Deputy collectors

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  134. Is there a cut off mark for DC Interview? How is it generally weighed off?
    Main mark + any interview mark? or anything else?

    Is there any update on the Main exam result date? Poor all of us! Keeping ourselves in wait mode without knowing when would this "result declaration ceremony" be over. I wish every waiting candidate a tension free period.....don't worry friends, be happy

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  135. THANK YOU .

    the final rank list is based on main marks + interview and nothing else . in most cases there is a little effect for even interview marks in kpsc.. max 2-3 rank change

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  136. WE SHALL go with interview preparation and discussions and let the result come when its time is up.
    we need not get so much worried of it .

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  137. some body said the result will be coming on 20th . today is 20th
    was there any information like that or simply misleading .. if there pls comment

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  138. current administrative reforms in kerala...plz giv valuable comments on it

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  140. result can be expected by march -april only.reliable sources say . valuation is only in the start stage.. psc has got their own limitations.. ., they say.

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  141. An internal talk in PSC is that court may cancel the main exam...

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  142. to anonymous Dec 23, 9.49 AMDecember 24, 2011 at 1:03 AM

    that will trigger something unpleasant !!!

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  143. Dear friends

    PSC is not going to publish the main exams results soon.It is in the same line as they did for the previous deputy collector exam and a case pending in kerala high court also creating issues.All the best frnds

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  144. Dear frnds

    PSC is not going to publish the main exam result soon.It is in the same line as they did for the previous deputy collector exam.A case pending in kerala high court is also a reason.

    All the best frnds

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  145. well... that's true there is a strong rumour out there...but myself skeptical about the credibility of the rumour claiming PSC may loose the court case and going very slow in valuation...always people tend to associate the "reliable" tag if the rumour emerge out from people associated with PSC

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  146. Is there any authenticity in the above two comments , if it is true then what will be the future of the already completed lists of SI,BDO etc. Please reply KOLLAM BAI or anyone knows about these kind of issues

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  147. what i feel is psc can publish the rank list based on 1000 people shortlisted in preliminary if any court doubts on credibility of deputy collector exams.Moreover PSC have extraconstitutional rights on exams which will stop court to make a unanimous decision.Watever i'm not waiting for main result i'm moving to Amstredam on month of february.Bullshit kerala govt and PSC

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  148. Que Sera Sera,What will be will be
    The Future is not ours to see.
    Que Sera Sera,What will be will be

    Let us hope at least!
    Anna will win
    DC result will be positive
    India will have a strong anti corruption wing
    All DC aspirants will have their results soon!

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  149. HI FRIENDS,
    AGAIN THE TRACK OF DISCUSSION GOT DIVERTED. 0N 13 DEC 2011 ANONYMOUS CONFIRMED VALUATION IS IN FINAL STAGE AND THE SAME WAS CONFIRMED BY KOLLAM BHAI ON 14 DEC. BUT BARELY AFTER 10 DAYS SOME ONE SAYS VALUATION JUST STARTED.... I THINK ALL THESE ARE JUST ASSUMPTIONS..AND THEN CANCELLATION OF MAINS BY COURT.? HOW MANY EXAMS WERE CANCELLED BY THE COURT ON EARLIER OCCASIONS?..... HARDLY ANY..SO FRIENDS BE POSITIVE. THESE RUMORS HAVE NO BASIS. ELSE ANY ONE CAN BRING IN SOME CREDIBLE INFO

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  150. none other than PSC knows the status of DC exam..OTHERS JUST STOP SPREADING THE RUMORS

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  151. about the result:
    one thing is sure , the valuation has been progressing for the last few weeks but we cannot expect a linear continuous operation in any of the gov: departments.the valuation camp is in progress but there may not be a full attendance as it is holiday month ( dec).psc is trying to achieve the one year target ( result with in one year from notification) in any of the examinations possible. but here also it has failed. ( not: of deputy was on 31 dec 2010). even after valuation there is a lot of works ( cut off policy , vacancies, supl: list etc;)

    cancellation of main exam: frankly telling it is near to impossible.but those who failed to attend the main may expect it, natural.
    court may not disturb the integrated list(( bdo, si..is the reason)). just think if the court is cancelling the int: list will it be possible to cancel the already selected bdos, redo main of si , redo main of deputy and what about the rights of those who are selected. a total collapse may be the result which is not bearable for psc.
    the chairman and memebers are in a good!!! relation , that is also a problem( in relation with policy decision).
    about rumours: the technical wing( valuation team) has a clash with other staff. so news from the psc may not be reliable always , but general information is true( ie: valuation panel formed ,result with in some period etc: )
    altogether one thing is sure , this time result wont be like last deputy .. and the departments are awaiting for the list ( near to 10000 vacancies generating by mar 2012, most from higher posts)
    best of luck and happy new year

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  152. PSC CHAIRMAN IS NOT COMING TO YOU AAND GIVING NEWS. THESE ARE ALL AVAILABLE INFO OUTSIDE THE CORE RADIUS , SOME MAY BE CARRYING CERTAIN DATAS . ie it

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  153. Why some are silent now ?

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  154. I guess the court case is not against the integrated list.But to have 1000 ppl with 62 and 2500 with lower than 62.According to those who filed the case,the ratio is not maintained.The former BDO list has no issue like this

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  155. Exactly that was the whole point in court case

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  156. all the recently published preliminary results have the issue of the integrated list ( including BDO).
    pls understand that there is no such thing called ratio ( like 1: 1)as such but reservation percentage in giving appointments in kpsc .
    reservation is given by following a rotation chart and that too only in the final list. they have included the 2500 for getting sufficient people to get the rotation properly completed and this resulted in double reservation

    for instance: i can show you candidates with 35 marks included in the deputy prelim list .this may be to find sufficient people from a specified category and thus the rotation can be followed and the reservation filling can be given from this list itself( otherwise special recruitment may be needed) by listing the splmntry list.
    but here the real issue is that the candidate with 35 marks has the same right like a general candidate for writing the main and may get another benefit in the main list by including him in the sply list ( double). this wont be happening and a general candidate might not be affected too much ,if the prelim list is prepared with a common cut off ( say 50 ) but may result in not filling a specific category while obeying rotation rule and this seat will go to gnrl.
    . psc cannot be qstnd for including 2500 more .. remember the reply of psc " there is no cut off for the list and we have prepared the list as per notification and to include sufficient nos:( inclusive) in main exam" ie all dear frnds.

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  157. if the 2500 were included in a suply list there wont be any prob.. and they wont be getting the at par status of a main list ( prelims) but psc published an integrated list( ie the issue here , no doubt)

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  158. as kollam bai said the crux of the issue is the integrated list with 2500 candidates in which only 1000 is from the general cut off of 62 .But still the remaining is included in the unified list without putting them as suppli list.then to other point raised above in another comment ,if at all psc feels that a section of the society is being not properly reperesented there are recruitment provisions for PSC to inlcude them in the Executiva cadre of the state Civil Service.this is the general way of recruitment employed by other State PSC.For UPSC Civils exams there maintains a balance at the Cutoff level not like the Kerala PSC which had put1000 from General Cut off and 2500 for reservation and then again putting both in unified list PSC has done gross mistake.

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  159. hope people are aware that Lokayukta cancelled the Kerala Uni asst Grade Exam.So challenging the PSC DC exam Unified short list is not an impossible ..its possible

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  160. The cancellation of Kerala Uni asst Grade Exam is due to fraudulent appointment of candidates and the investigation found some 40000 answer sheets are missing,in this context there is nothing more suitable than the cancellation, but here is not a situation like that . The chance is
    feeble

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  161. I got 61 and not included in the main list.I invested lot of time and wanted to get a job like dep collector.If PSC decided to take all candidates who scored above 62 (it may be 1000) or above 65 (may be 500) to shorten the examination procedure I would pacify myself as not talented as other frnds who got selected.But this is different.I can see a lot of candidates who have marks in the range of 30-40 (or even less) included in the main list.Remember this is for selecting candidates who will administer the progress of the state and its ppl.

    Would it be a violation of fundemental rights?
    Why PSC took 1000 who got above 62 and 2500 below 62 even if they have a mechanism to fill the vaccancy if they couldnt find the right candidate in reserved category.I am not at all against reservation.Better way was to decide a cut off and include more candidates which will definetely include a good chunk of candidates from reservation category.

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  162. every thing is subject to judicial scrutiny and even review further .. ie why bijoy has approached the court. but here the situation is not like uni asst exam

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  163. latest info regarding result: the valuation is going on but lack of suject experts delaying the process ,otherwise it might have come this month itself ... so we have to wait !!!

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  164. Definitely the DC case is not the same as Uni asst case ..but the amount of injustic done in the name of social justice done is indeed violation of Article 16 and it violates the very important verdict in the case of Indra Shahani vs. Union of India the Supreme Court in which honurable supreme court declared 27% reservation legal for socially and economically backward classes .Having given a pathbraking ruling by Supreme court .,the (1000+2500 reservation) unified list put forward by Kerala PSC stands legally questionable at any stage of the exam or post exam

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  165. The case is still ON and lets wait for the verdict.Its cleary a violation of justice and fundemental rights

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  166. which rules or judgements bar PSC from its current method of selection?
    PSC has a duty to ensure representation of reservation categories in the proper ratio. How can it be barred from follwing its discretion.
    If the final appointment doesn't follow merit, there could be contention. How can court intervene before final appointments are made? On what basis any one can successfully contest a constitutional bodies' decisions and procedures?

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  167. where are you Sabu when the BDO unified shortlist published,I think the violation of fundamental rights is only related to Deputy Collector exam only !!!!

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  168. happy new year....hope by february the results will be published?

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  169. in feb we can hope i ll come by april :)

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  170. Dear LD Clerk

    As far as I know BDO integrated list did not prepare by taking 1000 from above cut off and 2500 from below cut off...and lets wait for the court verdict on this...

    Happy new year to all

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  171. what Sabu told is ablolutely right...all other list SI or BDO dont have this problem(1000+2500 reservation).

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  172. @sabu and all who proclaim 1000+2500 logic, from where you guys got this data?
    A newspaper put that news with out any substantiation. Right?
    Does PSC in any place gave out any sort of numbers like this? I think "NO".
    These numbers of 2500 from reservation category is most possibly a guess work by newspapers with vested interests in relaying that image.
    The cut off may have been reduced by PSC and reservation logic might have been maintained, how can any one say for sure it is 2500?
    It could be 500,700, 200, or any figure. Otherwise those who raises this argument need to justify it with proper proof. Can it be done??

    If these parties has data to prove their allegation against PSC, let them bring it out in public domain.
    Otherwise there is no point or logic in their argument.

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  173. if that is the case, then PSC would have disputed the fact at the very inception of case

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  174. PLS REFER TO THESE LINKS
    1)http://keralapsc.org/short09/sl-30-09-state.pdf
    2)http://keralapsc.org/short11/315.2007.pdf

    THESE ARE ALL SIMILAR UNIFIED LISTS AND PLS COMPARE IT WITH OUR LIST , WHICH WILL DEFINITELY BRING AN IDEA OF THE SELECTION PROCEDURES OF MAIN EXAM

    THE RESULT OF PRELIMS EXAM IS NOT THE FINAL ONE TO DRAW THE DISTRIBUTIONS REGARDING RESERVATION .

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  175. Friends who are with the case and those who are against the DC exam case please take some time to read the verdicts put forward by the honourable court in various cases.This will help in equiping the people with better leagl points who are pursuing with High court case

    http://upsc.gov.in/misc/PSCs/karnataka%20high%20court%20judgements%20Vol-2/indexpg.htm

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  176. "The cut off marks have been lowered to the extent necessary in respect of candidates under Reservation group and Physically Handicapped"

    read the sentence in all lists.. BDO , SI, DEPUTY ETC: so pls leave the issue of court case .the ' necessary ' is fixed by the so called authority of appointments in the state ..
    naturally court has to support the hard task of psc to cater to the needs of all sections of society..the court won't go with candidates' wishes especially when there is no grave injustice . and pls pls understand that the preliminary list is prepared for short listing certain no: of candidates for main exam.. it is not the final result... 62 is enough and enough .

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  177. SO what is the type of verdict being expected
    1) cancelling the unified list by declaring unified list as unconstitutional
    2) no reseravtion for prelims
    3) reducing the proportion (2:3, 1: 1, 1: 2)
    4) keeping same cut off for all ( 62)
    5) lowering cut off ( re exam .main)
    6) redoing all the procedures as unified list is unjust
    DEAR friends i think u expect any of the above as a verdict if IT is in favour of bijoy team.. and this will result in a total rewrite of the YEARS long procedures followed by PSC in forming various rank list ( prelim +main)

    WILL IT HAPPEN?

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  178. so will the BDOs be dismissed from service , will the SI LIST AND DEPUTY LIST CANCELLED ..
    then why can't the court do it before mains and even during the period of one month after exam( one month freezing was ordered by court)?
    let's think some thing useful... lets make this space for productive discussions

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  179. Inclusion of Bijoy T Nair is a problem of complex nature, if PSC include Bijoy T Nair then it enters a messy situation that does not allow PSC its routine work,delay indefinitely..... that is not favorable to all of us ,

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  180. the case of 2500 is a positive sign , we can expect more vacancies.
    today mathrubhumi ( alappuzha) published a news regrading shortage of higher posts in revenue department especially the case of deputy collectors & thahsildars ( regional news , 4 column news)

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  181. Freinds

    Wait for the court verdict...whatever may be face it...All can understand the feelings of those who already wrote the main exam and couldnt get a chance to write it.

    As a side note Court can cancel Dep Coll exam only.BDO process is all over and court can leave it as it is...As far as I know PSC included 2500 + 1000 in the short list...that is true...

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  182. Just to bring attention : Categorizing and including candidates in a short list (after a priliminary exam) is against constitution (several judgement related to this by supreme court).

    Even categorizing PH candidates in short list is against supreme court judgement : http://upsc.gov.in/misc/PSCs/karnataka%20high%20court%20judgements%20Vol-2/page%20571-600.pdf

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  183. Eventhough there are several judgement similar in line with DC exam preliminary Shortlist case are given by Honourable supreme court and High Courts(http://upsc.gov.in/misc/PSCs/karnataka%20high%20court%20judgements%20Vol-2/page%20571-600.pdf)
    which will support the claim of petitioners in the Kerala PSC DC Exam case even at the stage of post exam ranked list ,the verdict will depend only on the presenation of all these legal points before the Honourable Kerala high court.Unfortunately it doesnt sound here that any of the team members of Bijoy and Team here is part of this forum

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  184. the complaint was not a public interest litigation
    bijoy and team can only file suit for inclusion and since the inclusion and reservation ( 2500 or 250000) are two mutually exclusive situations ,they cannot question the genuinity of providing any reservation quota or like...

    they( could ) claim only their inclusion and the psc was summoned for explanation and psc replied for including them in the list ithas to be expanded many fold...

    friends the chapter closes there , no doubt..

    my self from a reliable background for answering like this and no special interest in deputy exam

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    1. good analysis the data available , thanks Manoj

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  185. manoj sir can u give the correct status of the case

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  186. Everyone seems to be looking for a reliable data. The BDO rank list data:

    Date of short list----> 08/09/2010
    Date of Rank List-----> 18/04/2011

    That means, it took 7 months between the first shortlist and the final rank list.

    May be DC can also be considered in the similar lines.
    All the best everyone

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  187. it is not similar to any previous exam

    for the first time psc notified the prelims exam date and mains on the same time and conducted exam on time

    and now the psc is under high pressure for timely completion of all exams and for observing this a new committe is formed on last week

    so we can expect some thing better , no doubt

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  188. WHAT manoj said carries some thing vital
    bijoy team cannot give petition ( not pil case) for excluding some one or limit the no: of seats for some one else as long as this process is not affecting his postion , say inclusion

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  189. What is the status of the case ? Any reliable info ?

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  190. It seems the DC exam Case frenzy has fizzled out

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  191. this site seems freezed for the last week ?

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  192. Inclusion of candidates those w/o scoring the minima can be challenged in the court..My friend Er.Manoj John..hope u understood who am I..Just go thru the case history of Mr.Prem singh Songara vs State of Rajasthan case..Nearly 170 castes identified as OBC's in Kerala...For giving Representation to all...psc have to lower the marks to a single digit probably...Dnt beat around the bush...haha

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  193. Strange views my friend...Mr.Manoj John..Hope u identified who am I.Make a peep to the case history of Prem Singh Songara vs State of Rajasthan...
    Over 170 castes identified as Reservation categories by kerala govt...
    4 givin reprsntn 2 all..psc hav 2 lower minima marks to a single digit...is it possible...
    So clear its to safe sum big shot's interest...to include for the main exam..Rest they ll do cose no Optical Mark Reader..bt Human Valuators for Main Exam.
    Comeon friends think broadly..Act accordingly...haha

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  194. I do stand by the above statement ...but that does not undermine the statement given by Manoj with Respective to this case..
    "the complaint was not a public interest litigation
    bijoy and team can only file suit for inclusion and since the inclusion and reservation ( 2500 or 250000) are two mutually exclusive situations ,they cannot question the genuinity of providing any reservation quota or like...

    they( could ) claim only their inclusion and the psc was summoned for explanation and psc replied for including them in the list ithas to be expanded many fold...

    friends the chapter closes there , no doubt.."


    SO UNLESS and UNTILL a PIL is filed or considerd by High Court ..there isnt any scope for the DC case supporters whatsoever points they raise here.and PSC has its own constitutional impunity and prerogatives

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  195. Hi,

    Can anyone giv an approximate vacancy nos: for DC?

    Thanks

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  196. when will be the result publish?

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